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? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

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The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



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The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

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BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

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Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

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"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

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This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
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?消除一些常见的梳理误区?


我每天都能看到这种事——新人摇摇晃晃地闯进论坛,手里拿着从某个不靠谱的Telegram频道上找到的那些垃圾信息。当这些可怜的家伙忙着追鬼的时候,真正的刷卡者却一路笑着跑到他们的加密钱包里。是时候狠狠地打击一下那些可能正在毁掉你成功率的迷思了。

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“清洁知识产权”幻想

你已经听过无数遍了:处女IP是保证获得批准的护身符,任何“脏话”都会立刻被拒。简直是一派胡言。

虽然“干净”确实有用,但它并非Telegram用户所认为的圣杯。很多时候,最脏、被标记最多的 IP比你珍贵的“干净” IP 效果更好。移动运营商 IPiCloud 私人中继地址虽然表面上看起来是危险信号,但任何商家都无法承受屏蔽它们带来的经济损失。

是你最好的朋友。反欺诈系统必须在抓捕欺诈者和阻止合法用户之间取得平衡。当一个 IP 地址被成千上万的用户共享时,系统面临着一个两难的选择:
  • 阻止它并损失数百万美元的收入
  • 或者接受噪音并让一些欺诈行为溜走
移动数据池就像一个数字污水池,成千上万的设备共享地址。反欺诈人工智能无法隔离你的账户,否则就会抓获无数无辜的购物者。当苹果通过iCloud Private Relay在Cloudflare终端上盖上“合法”标签时,商家必须批准这些交易,无论其风险评分如何,否则就会屏蔽数百万高消费的苹果用户。


与此同时,那些你花钱购买的“纯净”数据中心IP呢?先进的反欺诈系统早已将它们记录在案。它们之所以引人注目,正是因为它们太干净了——缺乏合法连接所具有的有机模式。而且,它们在Radar和其他反欺诈提供商那里通常已经留下了不良记录。

有时候,用移动数据或 Relay 隐藏在众目睽睽之下比用价格过高的“干净”代理更好。人群的掩护比孤立无援更胜一筹。



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BIN 妄想

论坛里挤满了新手,他们正在寻找那个神秘的六位数密码组合,据说可以绕过所有安全措施。有些傻瓜居然在Telegram群里花钱购买这些“神奇的 BIN ” ,恳求“放弃你的 BIN 密码!”,仿佛某个秘密的数字序列就是他们获得无限批准的门票。

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BIN 并非神奇的钥匙,而是浩瀚信号海洋中的一个微小数据点。风险模型3DS 协议速度检查设备指纹识别运输模式都比你纠结的前六位数字更有价值。

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敲打同一个“有效”的BIN无异于数字自杀——你正在给机器学习灌输下一步该标记什么的精确信息。交易一致性比任何神奇的数字序列都重要。

您的设备指纹、AVS 匹配和真实的购买模式将比最热门的 BIN 列表更能让您获得更好的结果。



KYC 疑虑

持卡人担心,进行自拍验证意味着一些员工会保存他们的照片并记住他们的脸。这误解了现代 KYC 的运作方式。

如今的 KYC 系统主要都是自动化的。你的面部图像会被转换成数学数据点。公司实际上并不会保存你的原始照片/自拍视频,他们只保留其数学表示。只有当系统标记出严重不一致之处时才会进行人工审核,即使如此,这些系统通常也会要求提供更多文件,而审核人员每天要处理数百份验证,而且无法记住具体个人。

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活体验证”只是确认您在验证过程中确实在场,而不是使用打印的照片。您应该关注的是验证材料的一致性——匹配灯光、拍摄角度并确保元数据对齐。这比担心有人记住您的脸重要得多。

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这并不意味着你应该把你的头像贴到每家加密货币服务上,去兑换价值 20 美元的 ETH。除非你有一个孪生兄弟,否则你的肖像权只属于你自己。所以请妥善保管。



已验证送货地址的误区

“银行每次交易都会验证您的收货地址”——这种误解让信用卡持有者损失了无数机会。真相:对于Visa、 MastercardDiscover卡,银行只能通过支持 AVS 的卡查看账单地址。收货地址永远不会传输给发卡银行。


美国运通拥有一套AAV/AAV+系统,持卡人可以注册备用地址,但除了奢侈品和旅游行业外,很少有商家会采用该系统。一些老牌商家可能会致电银行进行人工验证,但由于交易量巨大,且零售商与银行之间存在多层级的隔离,这种情况如今已很少发生。只有那些销售超高端商品且值得花费精力和金钱的商家,才会继续使用这种过时的安全措施。


虽然3DS 2.0系统可以将运输数据纳入风险评估,但银行不会仅根据收货地址直接批准或拒绝交易。真正的验证是在商家端通过反欺诈规则和对历史订单的分析进行的。

当您收到“将您的收货地址添加到您的存档卡中”的消息时,请了解发生了什么。这些并非字面意义上的指令,而是泛泛的拒绝信息,提示“您的订单未通过我们的欺诈检查”。



超越神话

在这场游戏中,童话故事的代价是昂贵的。你面临的反欺诈系统包含多个层面:网络规则、发卡机构AI、商户安全堆栈、运输情报和行为分析。依赖过于简单的“解决方案”是业余爱好者们发帖抱怨而不是计算利润的原因。

掌握整个生态系统,系统地测试并不断调整。当有人向你兜售他们的“ 100%保证的方法”时,请记住:如果它真的完美无缺,他们就会默默地利用它——而不是为了一点零钱就把它卖给陌生人。

在这个游戏中,你的“胡说八道探测器”是你最宝贵的资产。在磨练你的工具之前,先磨练你的批判性思维,这样你才有可能活得足够久,赚到真正的钱。教义出来了。
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?消除一些常见的梳理误区?


我每天都能看到这种事——新人摇摇晃晃地闯进论坛,手里拿着从某个不靠谱的Telegram频道上找到的那些垃圾信息。当这些可怜的家伙忙着追鬼的时候,真正的刷卡者却一路笑着跑到他们的加密钱包里。是时候狠狠地打击一下那些可能正在毁掉你成功率的迷思了。

View attachment 55610



“清洁知识产权”幻想

你已经听过无数遍了:处女IP是保证获得批准的护身符,任何“脏话”都会立刻被拒。简直是一派胡言。

虽然“干净”确实有用,但它并非Telegram用户所认为的圣杯。很多时候,最脏、被标记最多的 IP比你珍贵的“干净” IP 效果更好。移动运营商 IPiCloud 私人中继地址虽然表面上看起来是危险信号,但任何商家都无法承受屏蔽它们带来的经济损失。

是你最好的朋友。反欺诈系统必须在抓捕欺诈者和阻止合法用户之间取得平衡。当一个 IP 地址被成千上万的用户共享时,系统面临着一个两难的选择:
  • 阻止它并损失数百万美元的收入
  • 或者接受噪音并让一些欺诈行为溜走
移动数据池就像一个数字污水池,成千上万的设备共享地址。反欺诈人工智能无法隔离你的账户,否则就会抓获无数无辜的购物者。当苹果通过iCloud Private Relay在Cloudflare终端上盖上“合法”标签时,商家必须批准这些交易,无论其风险评分如何,否则就会屏蔽数百万高消费的苹果用户。


与此同时,那些你花钱购买的“纯净”数据中心IP呢?先进的反欺诈系统早已将它们记录在案。它们之所以引人注目,正是因为它们太干净了——缺乏合法连接所具有的有机模式。而且,它们在Radar和其他反欺诈提供商那里通常已经留下了不良记录。

有时候,用移动数据或 Relay 隐藏在众目睽睽之下比用价格过高的“干净”代理更好。人群的掩护比孤立无援更胜一筹。



*** 隐藏文本:无法引用。***

BIN 妄想

论坛里挤满了新手,他们正在寻找那个神秘的六位数密码组合,据说可以绕过所有安全措施。有些傻瓜居然在Telegram群里花钱购买这些“神奇的 BIN ” ,恳求“放弃你的 BIN 密码!”,仿佛某个秘密的数字序列就是他们获得无限批准的门票。

View attachment 55614

BIN 并非神奇的钥匙,而是浩瀚信号海洋中的一个微小数据点。风险模型3DS 协议速度检查设备指纹识别运输模式都比你纠结的前六位数字更有价值。

View attachment 55615

敲打同一个“有效”的BIN无异于数字自杀——你正在给机器学习灌输下一步该标记什么的精确信息。交易一致性比任何神奇的数字序列都重要。

您的设备指纹、AVS 匹配和真实的购买模式将比最热门的 BIN 列表更能让您获得更好的结果。



KYC 疑虑

持卡人担心,进行自拍验证意味着一些员工会保存他们的照片并记住他们的脸。这误解了现代 KYC 的运作方式。

如今的 KYC 系统主要都是自动化的。你的面部图像会被转换成数学数据点。公司实际上并不会保存你的原始照片/自拍视频,他们只保留其数学表示。只有当系统标记出严重不一致之处时才会进行人工审核,即使如此,这些系统通常也会要求提供更多文件,而审核人员每天要处理数百份验证,而且无法记住具体个人。

View attachment 55618

活体验证”只是确认您在验证过程中确实在场,而不是使用打印的照片。您应该关注的是验证材料的一致性——匹配灯光、拍摄角度并确保元数据对齐。这比担心有人记住您的脸重要得多。

View attachment 55617

这并不意味着你应该把你的头像贴到每家加密货币服务上,去兑换价值 20 美元的 ETH。除非你有一个孪生兄弟,否则你的肖像权只属于你自己。所以请妥善保管。



已验证送货地址的误区

“银行每次交易都会验证您的收货地址”——这种误解让信用卡持有者损失了无数机会。真相:对于Visa、 MastercardDiscover卡,银行只能通过支持 AVS 的卡查看账单地址。收货地址永远不会传输给发卡银行。


美国运通拥有一套AAV/AAV+系统,持卡人可以注册备用地址,但除了奢侈品和旅游行业外,很少有商家会采用该系统。一些老牌商家可能会致电银行进行人工验证,但由于交易量巨大,且零售商与银行之间存在多层级的隔离,这种情况如今已很少发生。只有那些销售超高端商品且值得花费精力和金钱的商家,才会继续使用这种过时的安全措施。


虽然3DS 2.0系统可以将运输数据纳入风险评估,但银行不会仅根据收货地址直接批准或拒绝交易。真正的验证是在商家端通过反欺诈规则和对历史订单的分析进行的。

当您收到“将您的收货地址添加到您的存档卡中”的消息时,请了解发生了什么。这些并非字面意义上的指令,而是泛泛的拒绝信息,提示“您的订单未通过我们的欺诈检查”。



超越神话

在这场游戏中,童话故事的代价是昂贵的。你面临的反欺诈系统包含多个层面:网络规则、发卡机构AI、商户安全堆栈、运输情报和行为分析。依赖过于简单的“解决方案”是业余爱好者们发帖抱怨而不是计算利润的原因。

掌握整个生态系统,系统地测试并不断调整。当有人向你兜售他们的“ 100%保证的方法”时,请记住:如果它真的完美无缺,他们就会默默地利用它——而不是为了一点零钱就把它卖给陌生人。

在这个游戏中,你的“胡说八道探测器”是你最宝贵的资产。在磨练你的工具之前,先磨练你的批判性思维,这样你才有可能活得足够久,赚到真正的钱。教义出来了。
 

tby06

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Goid
View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
 

vvxnathan

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? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
Thanks' doctrine appreciate you
 

Geographer

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View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
Okeeey lete go
 

Norex

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View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
thanks
 

maybale

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?消除一些常见的梳理误区?


我每天都能看到这种事——新人摇摇晃晃地闯进论坛,手里拿着从某个不靠谱的Telegram频道上找到的那些垃圾信息。当这些可怜的家伙忙着追鬼的时候,真正的刷卡者却一路笑着跑到他们的加密钱包里。是时候狠狠地打击一下那些可能正在毁掉你成功率的迷思了。

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“清洁知识产权”幻想

你已经听过无数遍了:处女IP是保证获得批准的护身符,任何“脏话”都会立刻被拒。简直是一派胡言。

虽然“干净”确实有用,但它并非Telegram用户所认为的圣杯。很多时候,最脏、被标记最多的 IP比你珍贵的“干净” IP 效果更好。移动运营商 IPiCloud 私人中继地址虽然表面上看起来是危险信号,但任何商家都无法承受屏蔽它们带来的经济损失。

是你最好的朋友。反欺诈系统必须在抓捕欺诈者和阻止合法用户之间取得平衡。当一个 IP 地址被成千上万的用户共享时,系统面临着一个两难的选择:
  • 阻止它并损失数百万美元的收入
  • 或者接受噪音并让一些欺诈行为溜走
移动数据池就像一个数字污水池,成千上万的设备共享地址。反欺诈人工智能无法隔离你的账户,否则就会抓获无数无辜的购物者。当苹果通过iCloud Private Relay在Cloudflare终端上盖上“合法”标签时,商家必须批准这些交易,无论其风险评分如何,否则就会屏蔽数百万高消费的苹果用户。


与此同时,那些你花钱购买的“纯净”数据中心IP呢?先进的反欺诈系统早已将它们记录在案。它们之所以引人注目,正是因为它们太干净了——缺乏合法连接所具有的有机模式。而且,它们在Radar和其他反欺诈提供商那里通常已经留下了不良记录。

有时候,用移动数据或 Relay 隐藏在众目睽睽之下比用价格过高的“干净”代理更好。人群的掩护比孤立无援更胜一筹。



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BIN 妄想

论坛里挤满了新手,他们正在寻找那个神秘的六位数密码组合,据说可以绕过所有安全措施。有些傻瓜居然在Telegram群里花钱购买这些“神奇的 BIN ” ,恳求“放弃你的 BIN 密码!”,仿佛某个秘密的数字序列就是他们获得无限批准的门票。

View attachment 55614

BIN 并非神奇的钥匙,而是浩瀚信号海洋中的一个微小数据点。风险模型3DS 协议速度检查设备指纹识别运输模式都比你纠结的前六位数字更有价值。

View attachment 55615

反复敲打同一个“有效”的BIN无异于数字自杀——你等于在给机器学习填鸭式地灌输下一步该标记什么。交易的一致性比任何神奇的数字序列都重要。

您的设备指纹、AVS 匹配和真实的购买模式将比最热门的 BIN 列表更能让您获得更好的结果。



KYC 偏执狂

持卡人担心,进行自拍验证意味着一些员工会保存他们的照片并记住他们的脸。这误解了现代 KYC 的运作方式。

如今的 KYC 系统主要都是自动化的。你的面部图像会被转换成数学数据点。公司实际上并不会保存你的原始照片/自拍视频,他们只保留其数学表示。只有当系统标记出严重不一致之处时才会进行人工审核,即使如此,这些系统通常也会要求提供更多文件,而审核人员每天要处理数百份验证,而且无法记住具体个人。

View attachment 55618

活体验证”只是确认您在验证过程中确实在场,而不是使用打印的照片。您应该关注的是验证材料的一致性——匹配灯光、拍摄角度并确保元数据对齐。这比担心有人记住您的脸重要得多。

View attachment 55617

这并不意味着你应该把你的头像贴到每家加密货币服务上,去兑换价值 20 美元的 ETH。除非你有一个孪生兄弟,否则你的肖像权只属于你自己。所以请妥善保管。



已验证送货地址的误区

“银行每次交易都会验证您的收货地址”——这种误解让信用卡持有者损失了无数机会。真相:对于Visa、 MastercardDiscover卡,银行只能通过支持 AVS 的卡查看账单地址。收货地址永远不会传输给发卡银行。


美国运通拥有一套AAV/AAV+系统,持卡人可以注册备用地址,但除了奢侈品和旅游行业外,很少有商家会采用该系统。一些老牌商家可能会致电银行进行人工验证,但由于交易量巨大,且零售商与银行之间存在多层级的隔离,这种情况如今已很少发生。只有那些销售超高端商品且值得花费精力和金钱的商家,才会继续使用这种过时的安全措施。


虽然3DS 2.0系统可以将运输数据纳入风险评估,但银行不会仅根据收货地址直接批准或拒绝交易。真正的验证是在商家端通过反欺诈规则和对历史订单的分析进行的。

当您收到“将您的收货地址添加到您的存档卡中”的消息时,请了解发生了什么。这些并非字面意义上的指令,而是泛泛的拒绝信息,提示“您的订单未通过我们的欺诈检查”。



超越神话

在这场游戏中,童话故事的代价是昂贵的。你面临的反欺诈系统包含多个层面:网络规则、发卡机构AI、商户安全堆栈、运输情报和行为分析。依赖过于简单的“解决方案”是业余爱好者们发帖抱怨而不是计算利润的原因。

掌握整个生态系统,系统地测试并不断调整。当有人向你兜售他们的“ 100%保证的方法”时,请记住:如果它真的完美无缺,他们就会默默地利用它——而不是为了一点零钱就把它卖给陌生人。

在这个游戏中,你的“胡说八道探测器”是你最宝贵的资产。在磨练你的工具之前,先磨练你的批判性思维,这样你才有可能活得足够久,赚到真正的钱。教义出来了。
thanks
 

shadowjin

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View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

持卡人担心,进行自拍验证意味着一些员工会保存他们的照片并记住他们的脸。这误解了现代 KYC 的运作方式。

如今的 KYC 系统主要都是自动化的。你的面部图像会被转换成数学数据点。公司实际上并不会保存你的原始照片/自拍视频,他们只保留其数学表示。只有当系统标记出严重不一致之处时才会进行人工审核,即使如此,这些系统通常也会要求提供更多文件,而审核人员每天要处理数百份验证,而且无法记住具体个人。

View attachment 55618

活体验证”只是确认您在验证过程中确实在场,而不是使用打印的照片。您应该关注的是验证材料的一致性——匹配灯光、拍摄角度并确保元数据对齐。这比担心有人记住您的脸重要得多。

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这并不意味着你应该把你的头像贴到每家加密货币服务上,去兑换价值 20 美元的 ETH。除非你有一个孪生兄弟,否则你的肖像权只属于你自己。所以请妥善保管。



已验证送货地址的误区

“银行每次交易都会验证您的收货地址”——这种误解让信用卡持有者损失了无数机会。真相:对于Visa、 MastercardDiscover卡,银行只能通过支持 AVS 的卡查看账单地址。收货地址永远不会传输给发卡银行。


美国运通拥有一套AAV/AAV+系统,持卡人可以注册备用地址,但除了奢侈品和旅游行业外,很少有商家会采用该系统。一些老牌商家可能会致电银行进行人工验证,但由于交易量巨大,且零售商与银行之间存在多层级的隔离,这种情况如今已很少发生。只有那些销售超高端商品且值得花费精力和金钱的商家,才会继续使用这种过时的安全措施。


虽然3DS 2.0系统可以将运输数据纳入风险评估,但银行不会仅根据收货地址直接批准或拒绝交易。真正的验证是在商家端通过反欺诈规则和对历史订单的分析进行的。

当您收到“将您的收货地址添加到您的存档卡中”的消息时,请了解发生了什么。这些并非字面意义上的指令,而是泛泛的拒绝信息,提示“您的订单未通过我们的欺诈检查”。



超越神话

在这场游戏中,童话故事的代价是昂贵的。你面临的反欺诈系统包含多个层面:网络规则、发卡机构AI、商户安全堆栈、运输情报和行为分析。依赖过于简单的“解决方案”是业余爱好者们发帖抱怨而不是计算利润的原因。

掌握整个生态系统,系统地测试并不断调整。当有人向你兜售他们的“ 100%保证的方法”时,请记住:如果它真的完美无缺,他们就会默默地利用它——而不是为了一点零钱就把它卖给陌生人。

在这个游戏中,你的“胡说八道探测器”是你最宝贵的资产。在磨练你的工具之前,先磨练你的批判性思维,这样你才有可能活得足够久,赚到真正的钱。教义出来了。
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boble

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? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
let seeee!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

ismokemids223

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View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
^_^
 

Mother

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View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
Insightful
 

sigmasigma123

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View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?


I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.

View attachment 55610



The "Clean IP" Fantasy

Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.

While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.

Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
  • block it and lose millions in revenue
  • or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.


Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.

Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.



*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***

The BIN Delusion

Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.

View attachment 55614

BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.

View attachment 55615

Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.

Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.



KYC Paranoia

Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.

Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.

View attachment 55618

"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.

View attachment 55617

This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.



The Verified Shipping Address Myth

"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.


American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.


While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.

When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."



Beyond the Mythology

Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.

Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.

In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
 
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